What did I do wrong? Or did I?

I'm a writer, and I read extensively. I also used to be a teacher, which included dealing with writing assignments from students who often tried to pass off something someone else had written as their own. Writer "voice" is something I've learned to pick up on quickly.

I also tend to be extremely cynical and skeptical, so I often keep my mouth shut when I'm suspicious.

But I have noticed the same things Newton mentions. There are far too many similar phrasings in Debbie's and Ray's posts. Some things that are not particularly common phrasings are identical from both "people." And they present their information in the same way, as Newton pointed out: Long, rambling posts full of X-rated and/or unnecessary details. And it's somewhat telling, to me, that "Debbie" doesn't seem to have posted at all since "Ray" started posting.

I don't know whether this is someone who wants to share erotica and is pretending to be a couple in order to do so, or if at least some of what's being said is real but "Debbie" is pretending to be "Ray" to get us to believe Ray is okay with what's happening.

Either way, I would be very surprised if "Debbieandray" and "Vajra" are separate people.
 
Oh, Debbie has a daughter, I had forgotten about that. How is that daughter doing these days, anyhow?

Re: condoms ... you must not have heard of my mega-million dollar corporation called, "Pootie Condoms." They are just like gold-and-chocolate flavored condoms (think Magnum ice cream bars) except they also vibrate at a million times per second while you're wearing them. The science is very complicated to explain; I have a patent.

... what? I wouldn't "con-" a "-dom," you know. It's all very affordable, you see, due to a new method of production. You can pick it up at your local hardware store.

Re: sock puppet evidence ... it's just circumstantial, but it does seem like Debbie and Ray say stuff like, "And I liked that," an awful lot. And: there's the dialogs with no mention of what the people are thinking while they're talking. [shrug] No more than a telltale detail, but one that I've noticed multiple times.
 
KC43 said:
..."Debbie" doesn't seem to have posted at all since "Ray" started posting...
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Well, come on. The poor woman is way too busy sucking and shagging Roy, Ray, Scott, and hugely dicked Davison several times a day or week, the men at the adult bookstore on Fridays, and a half dozen (at least!) of her church congregation, now TWICE a week, Wednesday and Saturday.

Ray meanwhile, has some kind of extremely high powered high income profession, plus when he gets home, does all the housework, cat boxes, laundry, dishes, changing sheets for Her to fuck Her bfs' brains out in, cooking, commute, bathing and massaging his Domme and Dom, all while spending the night trying to sleep on a mat on the floor. And I am sure I read there is a "son" at home. Is this the 27 year old who is shagging his step sister, or a younger son?

Plus "they" are seeing "their therapist" once a week as well.

How would either of them have time to write?

"Ray," the cuck wannabe, whoever he is, has time to write. He needs our attention, especially the attention of this celibate "Dick-dommin' " person who has even met them (or has he?) and supports them with such sage advice as, "don't bother with condoms even though you've shagged 10,000."

Kevin, Mr Vanilla, sweetheart, you're in over your head. Start posting cookie recipes.
 
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Magdlyn said:
Well, come on. The poor woman is way too busy sucking and shagging Roy, Ray, Scott, and hugely dicked Davison several times a day or week, the men at the adult bookstore on Fridays, and a half dozen (at least!) of her church congregation, now TWICE a week, Wednesday and Saturday.

Ray meanwhile, has some kind of extremely high powered high income profession, plus when he gets home, does all the housework, cat boxes, laundry, dishes, changing sheets for Her to fuck Her bfs' brains out in, cooking, commute, bathing and massaging his Domme and Dom, all while spending the night trying to sleep on a mat on the floor. And I am sure I read there is a "son" at home. Is this the 27 year old who is shagging his step sister, or a younger son?

Plus "they" are seeing "their therapist" once a week as well.

How would either of them have time to write?

"Ray," the cuck wannabe, whoever he is, has time to write. He needs our attention, especially the attention of this celibate "Dick-dommin' " person who has even met them (or has he?) and supports them with such sage advice as, "don't bother with condoms even though you've shagged 10,000."

Kevin, Mr Vanilla, sweetheart, you're in over your head. Start posting cookie recipes.
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I am glad I am not the only one who noticed... I think someone gets jollies from these threads.
 
Re (from Magdlyn):
"Kevin, Mr. Vanilla, sweetheart, you're in over your head. Start posting cookie recipes."
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LOLOL ...

As consolation prize, I'll try to make sure the cookies are schlong-shaped (and 15 inches long). Just don't bite too hard!
 
Voce

KC43 said:
I'm a writer, and I read extensively. I also used to be a teacher, which included dealing with writing assignments from students who often tried to pass off something someone else had written as their own. Writer "voice" is something I've learned to pick up on quickly.

I also tend to be extremely cynical and skeptical, so I often keep my mouth shut when I'm suspicious.

I .
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We, this being the royal we and not to be confused with a grouping if commoners with a single representative, feel that it is immaterial that Debbie and Ray use a single typist to communicate. I also notice that after many years, dogs look like their pets and couples meld a substantial amount. I have some words jammed so far into my Psych (these are Japanese words) they refuse to be dislodged after 15 years of the celebration of my wife's graduation from life.

Debbie has written to me offline, back when guns were being trained on me. If they are one cuck wannabe Ray has a costume set to die for. Now only 15 to twenty different me were involved in the pictures, the lady (one of those looks so real blow up dolls that you just want to say, "boy we are clever monkeys") consistent.

Literary analysis aside (and voce d'moi seems to have gone unanalyzed for its similarity to R&D) could we keep on topic?

While there are more than a few wanking crankers in the cuck wannabe realm, I am not finding this to be wannabe.

While my daughters do point out my lack of keeping up with modern technology (written business plan, how last century, comes to mind) I am not sure that actual iced wannabe is such a rarity, or there are some seriously gifted photoshoppers out there.

As to myself, I would say my posts (really just one post recycled over and over, one note Johnny, don't you know.) are such that seeing I am not of this planet is more than evident. I am not up on sock metaphor, perhaps our resident author with his command of voce, might give me the Strunk & White on it.

And please go back and place allegedly in front of any parts of my posts where I mentioned any activities of Ours with them (mortals from Earth). I fear the wrath of PETA might descend upon my frail and delicate shoulders.
 
Purple sage

Magdlyn said:
"Ray," the cuck wannabe, whoever he is, has time to write. He needs our attention, especially the attention of this celibate "Dick-dommin' " person who has even met them (or has he?) and supports them with such sage advice as, "don't bother with condoms even though you've shagged 10,000."
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Please, my surname in Domin, which I place in lower case, as a part of ongoing ego therapy.

Advice when I give, I do find the velveteen eared Purple Sage to be so much better. However, I did not advise leave off condoms, in fact I iterated and possibly even reiterated, I thought the happy condom users should stick to their present course.

Given the 10,000 shagged condomless and the fact the CDC and NHI are tracking more than a thousand HIV infected people who show no signs of progression of the subsequent. aids! it seems that the Dr Seuss version of SEX and everything about it, might be lacking in details and might have some lack of information, though I know the body of knowledge on human biology was completed years ago.

Perhaps it is the finger of Gawd, which I feel upon occasion has been touching my butthole has kept me safe all these years.

There is a nice booke called The Snap of the Dragon's Tail by wang May ming. But please understand this is a novel, so likely is not cited in the medical references.
 
Cookie Recipe #1 (as per suggestion)

http://www.mccormick.com/Recipes/Dessert/Vanilla-Sugar-Cookies

Vanilla Sugar Cookies Recipe

Prep Time: 20 mins
Cook Time: 6 mins

Makes 4 1/2 dozen or 27 (2 cookie) servings.

Ingredients

2 3/4 cups flour
2 teaspoons McCormick® Cream of Tartar
1 teaspoon baking soda
1/2 teaspoon salt
1 1/2 cups sugar
1 cup (2 sticks) butter, softened
2 eggs
2 teaspoons McCormick® Pure Vanilla Extract
Additional sugar, for rolling

1. Mix flour, cream of tartar, baking soda and salt in large bowl. Set aside. Beat sugar and butter in large bowl with electric mixer on medium speed until light and fluffy. Add eggs and vanilla; mix well. Gradually beat in flour mixture on low speed until well mixed.

2. Refrigerate dough 2 hours or until firm.

3. Preheat oven to 400°F. Shape dough into 1-inch balls. Roll in additional sugar or Colored Sugar. Place 2 inches apart on baking sheets.

4. Bake 6 to 8 minutes or until lightly browned. Cool on baking sheets 1 minute. Remove to wire racks; cool completely.

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These cookies look really tasty and would be just the thing to serve Debbie and Davison after a hot and sweaty roll in the hay. I could really get my cookies off eating these.

I highly recommend this recipe and it is my official advice that you serve the cookies at an appropriate time (such as after cleaning the cat box).

With due apologies for the unmanly levity,
Kevin T.
 
If you do forget to wash up, your Dom will simply flog your hands while your Domme squeezes your nuts.

Which is okay because there's no nuts on these cookies. You could say these cookies are off their nut.
 
Ooo... Did someone say cookies?! :D

I will admit to also being horrified at the thought of the only key being flushed (despite my ongoing skepticism). I can't let Mister Vanilla take all the responsibility for baking.

You do the sugar cookies; I'll do the chocolate chip. Extra vanilla extract is free of charge. ;)
 
kdt26417 said:
[ Beat sugar and butter in large bowl with electric mixer on medium speed until light and fluffy. Add eggs and vanilla; mix well. Gradually beat in flour mixture on low speed until well mixed.

With due apologies for the unmanly levity,
Kevin T.
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This smacks ( if we are allowed poetic license here) of sado-masochistic cookies
 
YouAreHere said:
Ooo... Did someone say cookies?! :D
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Glad you liked my idea, YAH!

I will admit to also being horrified at the thought of the only key being flushed (despite my ongoing skepticism).
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No one could wear a chastity device for more than a couple days, tops, without being let out for cleaning purposes. Drops of pee retained, sweat, and if uncirc'ed, smegma build-up. Yuck. No matter how vigilant the sub is with Q-tips and babywipes, having said device removed for thorough cleaning is a must.

The huge majority of chastity device reporting on the web is fantasy.

And DebbieandRay and Vajra seem to have left the building, to go stun other boards with their erotica posing as advice seeking.

You be you, little cuck wannabe!

I can't let Mister Vanilla take all the responsibility for baking.

You do the sugar cookies; I'll do the chocolate chip. Extra vanilla extract is free of charge. ;)
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The idea of your cookies is making me salivate more than any gangbang description, YAH. :D
 
Magdlyn said:
No one could wear a chastity device for more than a couple days, tops, without being let out for cleaning purposes. Drops of pee retained, sweat, and if uncirc'ed, smegma build-up. Yuck. No matter how vigilant the sub is with Q-tips and babywipes, having said device removed for thorough cleaning is a must.

The huge majority of chastity device reporting on the web is fantasy.
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I'm sure the majority of the reporting on the web my be fantasy. We found that there was chaffing, and it became uncomfortable for Ray to wear. Yes, it did come with two keys, the flushing of the one was more a mental fun time for me.

The use of the chastity device was more to add to our fun in our relationship, but to no avail. Ray does like the paddling, though. And so do I.

Me and Ray were trying to do the whole Dom thing, but found that Ray is Ray and I am me. I am much more dom than Ray is. And Ray is just naturally submissive. We thought that Davison would take on a more DOM role, too, but he has more become a lover and a friend to both me and Ray. And that's worked well.

Ray enjoys doing the dishes and the laundry. He always has. I have never demanded that he do so. Ray has always been more of a domestic person than I am. And that works for us. We do share the cooking duties, though.

Our relationship with Davison has become more like when Antonio lived with us. And that's been nice. And me and Ray have been more playful with each other, too.

I think that I will always want Ray to be more like other men, but I also know that may never happen. Ray has a lot of sexual hang ups. I really want Ray to get past those hang ups. And I have a lot of pent up anger from my past. Me and Ray have found ways to play that have helped both of us.

Both me and Ray like Davison as a person, and that he accepts Ray's bi side. Ray won't act on his bi desires, and he won't act on desires for women, either. So, having Davison living with us has helped both me and Ray, sexually and emotionally.

Neither me or Ray have meant to appear or seem to be writing out some fantasy. Ray was into poly long before he met me. And I am still learning about poly. I want to be able to question and even respond to others.

The only people I have been able to talk to about any of this has been Margaret and Ray's ex-wife. And I found out yesterday that Ray's ex knows Margaret, or did years ago. We may have been too descriptive in our writing, especially me. Even Ray's ex-wife says I am too open, even face to face.

Scott told me yesterday that I am a TMI person. He said that when we first met that it excited him to hear about all of my sexual exploits, but that didn't last long. So, people on this forum are not the only people who have told me about this lately.

We, me, Ray and Davison are like anyone else, trying to figure everything out.

We can't control what other people think of us, but we can control ourselves. And in time I think we can get good at it.

Thank You to all of you for your advice and openness.

Debbie
 
FWIW, Debbie posted some photographic evidence in an album on her profile:

http://www.polyamory.sbs/forum/album.php?albumid=841

You can check it out if you want and draw your own conclusions.

Re (from YouAreHere):
"You do the sugar cookies; I'll do the chocolate chip. Extra vanilla extract is free of charge. ;)"
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Perfect! More vanilla for everyone.

Re (from Dickdomin):
"This smacks (if we are allowed poetic license here) of sado-masochistic cookies."
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There's a lot of beating going on, but it's not that kind of beating. :) And don't say smack! Please! [shudder]
 
In many ways, Ray is not your husband anymore. He is a slave of yours while Davison is your husband--the man you love the most and your soul mate. BTW, you should shower Ray time to time, as in making him your personal toilet :)
 
I was about to go make cookies..

polyamorous69 said:
In many ways, Ray is not your husband anymore. He is a slave of yours while Davison is your husband--the man you love the most and your soul mate. BTW, you should shower Ray time to time, as in making him your personal toilet :)
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I was going to go make cookies for everyone, then I read the personal toilet part.... ;)
 
I am making them now.. Not thinking about it

Renee and Mark have a really amazing kitchen, for 2 people who cannot cook I don't get it.. The house now smells like chocolate chip cookies. That's the only kind I know how to make, and really the only kind I like..

#lovemycookies
 
Smack?

kdt26417 said:
There's a lot of beating going on, but it's not that kind of beating. :) And don't say smack! Please! [shudder]
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Is this a veiled drug reference? Or did Renee turn you over her knee, or did it make you think of that? And the shudder, are J7&j9 going to have extremely pungent silky ones?
 
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